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Author Topic: Cameron and the banning of crosss at work.
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on: July 13, 2012, 18:03
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There has been a lot of debate and currently there are two cases being heard in Strasbourg about silly christians claiming that they are being discriminated against because they were banned from wearing crosses at work.

Now our PM, Mr Cameron has stepped in and said that he will change the law so that christians can wear a cross at work.

I don't believe this but I'm actually in agreement with George Pitcher. They say there's a first time for everything!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2172674/David-Camerons-cynical-bid-lift-non-existent-ban-wearing-Christian-crosses.html

And it appears that the Russkies are just as dumb as our PM.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_07_11/Christianity/
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on: July 13, 2012, 19:35
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Quote from Graham Martin-Royle on July 13, 2012, 18:03
I don't believe this but I'm actually in agreement with George Pitcher. They say there's a first time for everything!

Graham that is exactly (word for word) what I thought when I read it ....

Its astonishing George of the sixth form getting something right for once ..... mind it does prove the old adage
"even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day".
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Wow something in the Mail that I agree with, I'm shocked!!

As a member of the NSS I've been following this story for ages, it really annoys me, its an absolute joke, amazing its had the legs it has. Ludicrous, here's a link to the appeal court ruling for anyone interested who wants to see what a non issue this is:

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2010/80.html

I sent a letter to David Davis on Friday in response to his retarded question to Cameron at MPQ's:

"On 4 September, the European Court of Human Rights is hearing the
case of Miss Nadia Eweida, the lady who lost her job at British
Airways for wearing a crucifix as a mark of her Christianity. The
behaviour of BA in this was a disgraceful piece of political
correctness, so I was surprised to see that the Government are
resisting Miss Eweida’s appeal. I cannot believe that the Government
are supporting the suppression of religious freedom in the workplace,
so what are we going to do about this sad case?"

The story is basically a myth, what an idiot!
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on: July 15, 2012, 17:14
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But that's just it, the whole of religion is based on mythology.
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on: July 15, 2012, 17:40
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She did not lose her job for wearing a crucifix as a merk of her Christianity. She lost her job for wearing an item of jewelry which was not in accordance with the BA dress code. What the item was was irrelevant to the case.

But we knew that didn't we?
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on: July 15, 2012, 18:51
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Zippy, you're expecting christians to tell the truth! Come on, be serious. ;-)

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What intrigues me about this whole affair is how will Cameron sell this nonsense ?. The bloody legislation is non-existent, so where does he go from there. We know the print media will fall slavishly into line and support his "efforts" (George Pitcher notwithstnding) however, how does he intend to overturn a law that does not exist in the House of Commons and then expect the Judiciary to act upon the same piece of non-existent claptrap. Particularly when the Judges know perfectly well it is bollix and have demonnstrated that they are aware that this is the case in the judgement linked to by Mr integrity.
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on: July 16, 2012, 18:23
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My thoughts are that voter turn out is low & most people don't really follow politics. The republicans in the states played up to the reactionary religious nuts & gained their support, maybe the conservatives want do do the same. They know most of these people are idiots, maybe it would be enough for Cameron simply to make the right noises & the 'poor persecuted christians' will get behind him & I don't now maybe they are easy to mobilize? But most people being so disenfranchised wouldn't notice/care? I'm thinking it wouldn't work so well over here as religious nuts are few & far between & he doesn't have the benefit of Fox news pumping out lies on his behalf 24/7.

I don't actually know what I'm talking about really, just a thought!
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on: July 16, 2012, 18:49
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Given the physical law that hot air rises, expect any time soon to see Mr Cameron addressing the House from the vicinity of the ceiling.
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on: July 16, 2012, 21:32
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@ MrIntegrity

I take your point about political apathy among the electorate and that he will be seeking support from the religious. However, he won't need to play to the galleries of xtian fundementalism if this article by the ABofC is anything to go by.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/14/christians-persecuted-archbishop-canterbury-carey

This is the opinion of the "moderate" and educated wing of xtianity, and yet Carey is still selling the myth of persecution via the "ban" on adorning oneself with religious symbols whilst at work. Providing proof (if any were needed) that this rubbish still has legs within the state Church. But, now Pitcher has muddied the waters somewhat which provides an example of the precarious nature of Church unity. I wonder if he is still speaking to Pitcher, one lives in hope that he is not as there is something gratifying in being a by-stander to religious schisms. I digress, but it is an enjoyable thought nevertheless.

My more specific point, however, is how does he garner support to overturn non-existent legislation amongst those that are responsible for the passage of and enactment of legislation in the House of Commons and the Judiciary. Surely someone will notice the fatal flaw in his "campaign". We have, I know, but they are not going to listen to us heathens.
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