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Author Topic: Why did you leave religion?


LeoLeon
Hydrogen
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Re: Why did you leave religion?
on: June 29, 2018, 10:10

Quote from on August 1, 2011,
To the ex Muslim scientist. My dear Sir, I sympathise and commiserate with your tortured past. Perhaps my own story will help you.
I had no religion but school and the Royal Navy gave me a few clues. None of which I took any notice of. Eventually I won a contract to join the European SPace Agency as an Electronic Engineer. I was pretty ignorant about Space at that time. But I discovered many wondrous things.
Nasa was able to get to the moon in just 3 days. Wow what an achievement. Not too many years ago a stagecoach took 3 days to get from York to London. British Rail are still trying to beat this time.
Then Nasa sent a spacecraft to the outer planets. It took 12 years to get to them. Remembering of course that our present chemical propulsion techniques enable Spacecraft to travel at some 40,000 Km per hour. Later we were able to travel to Mars and that can take up to 9 months dependent upon the relative orbital positions of Mars and Earth. I was agog at the huge expanse of Space between planets in our own solar system. The next step was to discover that our little solar system in only one of 3-400 Billion in our home town, known as the Milky Way Galaxy.
I also learned that the nearest star, or sun if you prefer, to us is Alpha Proxima. That is a mere 4 Light Years away from us. Whereas our Galaxy is some 100,000 light years across. Nevertheless with present day propulsion for Space craft it would take us between 30-40,000 years to reach our nearest star neighbour. Wow another case of agoging. Just how unimaginably big is our Galaxy. On this scale that makes Earth just a speck of dust, in a dust storm. Nasa with the aid of the Hubble Telescope has estimated that there are now innumerably Billions of other Galaxies, many much bigger than our own. to me that renders our speck of dust to nothing more than an Atom, with our sun a the nucleus and our planets as tiny electrons whizzing around the sun. Within our speck of dust. Life on Earth is now reduced to a multitude of quarks existing on this electron. Now came my big revelation.....
If anyone really wants to believe that a creator was responsible for all of this magnificence...
Why on EARTH would HE (I say He, because the scriptures tell us so) consider shrinking down to a size that would fit on our electron and decide to make man in his own image.? What made HIM pick on our speck of dust and then our electron?
It defies reason, logic, science and even imagination. Faith is a tenuous thing and cannot hold us in bondage for ever. Freedom of thought and freedom of speech, which is not permitted everywhere will give us all the freedom we desire.
I hope this story helps you my friend. Greetings.



Three Legs-
and a-
Wheel
Calcium
Posts: 28
Re: Why did you leave religion?
on: January 11, 2019, 14:13

I grew up in the 50s when every man and his dog believed in god.

At school, we were made to pray to mythical god each morning in assembly and every night in class before we went home.

One day, I guess that I was about 8-ish, I announced to some friends that I didn't believe in god and that the concept was complete crap. Friends told their friends and someone then told the class teacher. The teacher, one morning asked the class to raise their hands if they believed in god. I kept mine down. To cut a long story short, I was caned across the hand. My god, that hurt. It must have done because I remember it as if it were yesterday. I'm the most stubborn person I know and from that day on, I refused to believe. Back then, I just kind of knew that god didn't exist without understanding why. Many moons and many books later, I now know why I don't believe.

When and why did I originally become an Atheist? I'm not sure. My best guess is that I never really believed in god in the first place. Back when I was growing up, it was just expected by society that people believed in god and, at the time, it was unlikely that anyone didn't and unthinkable that anyone would ever admit that they didn't. Well, society and I weren't the best of friends and I certainly had no intention of believing or doing something because society said so.

Much later in life, not only did I realise why I didn't believe in god, I also found out that I have Asperger Syndrome, which explains a lot, especially my behaviour. I used to say that I 'suffer' from Asperger Syndrome, but, you know, I now actually enjoy it.

Because of Asperger Syndrome, I see the world as a binary set of processes. Things either 'are' or they 'are not'. Mine is a binary world. Things are either black or white. Greys do not exist in my world. Greys only serve to confuse. Greys are invented by those who intend to fool. If god cannot be proven to exist, and the burden of proof most certainly rests with the perpetrators of the god nonsense, then he does not exist and there is the end of the matter until such time as someone can provide the said proof.



Alcuin
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Posts: 927
Re: Why did you leave religion?
on: January 11, 2019, 15:24

Quote TL&aW: "..The teacher, one morning asked the class to raise their hands if they believed in god. I kept mine down. To cut a long story short, I was caned across the hand..."

The RC schools I attended weren't so bad as to attack with a cane. As far as I know, almost none of the boys in my secondary school class believed there is a god, much less an Abrahamic one, so the school probably wouldn't have dared. It is very wrong to treat disbelief in any god(s) as some sort of punishable offence. At least most Christians now acknowledge this.



Three Legs-
and a-
Wheel
Calcium
Posts: 28
Re: Why did you leave religion?
on: January 12, 2019, 08:21

Quote from Alcuin on January 11, 2019, 15:24
Quote TL&aW: "..The teacher, one morning asked the class to raise their hands if they believed in god. I kept mine down. To cut a long story short, I was caned across the hand..."

The RC schools I attended weren't so bad as to attack with a cane. As far as I know, almost none of the boys in my secondary school class believed there is a god, much less an Abrahamic one, so the school probably wouldn't have dared. It is very wrong to treat disbelief in any god(s) as some sort of punishable offence. At least most Christians now acknowledge this.

It wasn't an RC school - it was CofE !!! It would have been around 1961 - or thereabouts.

Most christards SAY that they acknowledge that disbelief in god should not be punished BUT Anne Widdecombe has gone on record as saying that she wants blasphemy punishable by law. There are fewer christards these days, but the ones that remain are certainly more extreme in their views. They are even infiltrating our schools now and want creationism taught alongside evolution as though it were a plausible possibility.

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