4 responses to “Labour: We must ‘do God’ to fight anti-Christian persecution”
superscot
Danny Alexander still holds these daft ideas that have held his native country, scotland, to ransome for generations. As a Scot myself, it worries me that if a yes vote should split scotland from the rest of the UK, the old men in black coats would wrestle control of the population again.
There are still areas in Scotland where the swings in childrens play areas are tied up on a sunday and any shop daring to open will be boycotted till they go bust.
There’s even a newspaper running anti gay sentiments.
Church and state should be firmly kept apart!
lt_zippy2
Gordon,
You are certainly not wasting your time. I certainly object to persecuting and physically oppressing people for thier beliefs. It is certainly wrong that there are people out there who are Christians who are persecuted in the countries in which they live for simply being Christians. It is wrong and it is just as wrong for non-believers being persecuted and oppressed for being non-believers, as far as I’m concerned it is the same problem. What the cause of this oppression? Religion.
It was Greta Christina in her superb book “Why Are You Atheists so Angry” and Sean Faircloth in “Attach of the Theocrats” who point out that people that suffer the most from religious oppression also happen to be religous themselves (but happen to be the “wrong” religion) so often we atheists when criticising religion often do so by proxy on behalf of those victims as well. “Doing god” does not help or alleviate this oppression and persecution, in fact it may make it worse!
That does not mean that we won’t criticise religion, all religion, all claims that are nased on faith. Criticism is not oppression and faith is the number one problem which causes oppression in this world. And you are spot in that the news story on which the post is based on is indeed confusing the two issues.
GordonWillis
What I would ask the religious:
If there was a choice between saving the lives of ten million people who happen to have a loopy sense of logic and saving the Christian Faith, which would you choose, anybody? I ask because I don’t believe in religion, but I do believe in protecting anybody who is persecuted merely for believing whatever, and I think that this post confuses two different matters: the survival of Christianity, and the survival of real people who are really suffering because. What would Jesus do?
I’ve asked this on site. I hope I’m not wasting my time.
lt_zippy2
There should be embarrassment. These politicians are (supposed to be) intelligent educated people…stating that they believe in the ridiculous for no good reason SHOULD damn well be embarrassing!
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4 responses to “Labour: We must ‘do God’ to fight anti-Christian persecution”
Danny Alexander still holds these daft ideas that have held his native country, scotland, to ransome for generations. As a Scot myself, it worries me that if a yes vote should split scotland from the rest of the UK, the old men in black coats would wrestle control of the population again.
There are still areas in Scotland where the swings in childrens play areas are tied up on a sunday and any shop daring to open will be boycotted till they go bust.
There’s even a newspaper running anti gay sentiments.
Church and state should be firmly kept apart!
Gordon,
You are certainly not wasting your time. I certainly object to persecuting and physically oppressing people for thier beliefs. It is certainly wrong that there are people out there who are Christians who are persecuted in the countries in which they live for simply being Christians. It is wrong and it is just as wrong for non-believers being persecuted and oppressed for being non-believers, as far as I’m concerned it is the same problem. What the cause of this oppression? Religion.
It was Greta Christina in her superb book “Why Are You Atheists so Angry” and Sean Faircloth in “Attach of the Theocrats” who point out that people that suffer the most from religious oppression also happen to be religous themselves (but happen to be the “wrong” religion) so often we atheists when criticising religion often do so by proxy on behalf of those victims as well. “Doing god” does not help or alleviate this oppression and persecution, in fact it may make it worse!
That does not mean that we won’t criticise religion, all religion, all claims that are nased on faith. Criticism is not oppression and faith is the number one problem which causes oppression in this world. And you are spot in that the news story on which the post is based on is indeed confusing the two issues.
What I would ask the religious:
If there was a choice between saving the lives of ten million people who happen to have a loopy sense of logic and saving the Christian Faith, which would you choose, anybody? I ask because I don’t believe in religion, but I do believe in protecting anybody who is persecuted merely for believing whatever, and I think that this post confuses two different matters: the survival of Christianity, and the survival of real people who are really suffering because. What would Jesus do?
I’ve asked this on site. I hope I’m not wasting my time.
There should be embarrassment. These politicians are (supposed to be) intelligent educated people…stating that they believe in the ridiculous for no good reason SHOULD damn well be embarrassing!
And we are going to make damn sure that it is!