Where is the REAL Islam?

The elephant in the room.

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8 responses to “Where is the REAL Islam?”

  1. B Brown

    @Howard seems totally confused about what atheism is. As Graham writes it is just a non belief in God’s. Like the rest of us Howard needs to form his own views and values about how to operate in the world.

  2. Have you ever been living in an Islamic community like Afghanistan that is very conservatively religious and tens of people die everyday due to the favor of Islam? I am coming from Afghanistan and this situation is so panicking even for me that was born and have bee living here for 30 years. You can be easily killed because you work for the government or Humanitarian Organizations by Taliban only if you distance few KMs from the town.
    The real Islam doesn’t exist with ambitious ideas of human happiness in it, religion have been formed and enforced by power demanding groups to ease the way of governing over herds. Certain people benefit from the religion in undeveloped communities and others (majority) are to feed those.
    Atheism is the rescuing action to be taken by innocent member of people around the world to work hard and sacrifice for humans happiness. The leading people in atheism must try to advocate for freedom of religion and prayer, they also should educate communities in understanding the reality and the fact of human nature, rights and happiness.

  3. Graham Martin-Royle

    @Howard: Atheism tells you nothing because all that atheism is, is a non belief in gods.

  4. You say this about religion, that it is all a ‘distortion’, and you call for a political solution which, quite honestly, is of no superior quality, in that it is utopian, that is to say, impossibly idealistic, and therefore nothing more than an atheist’s distorted notion of what reality might be.

    Instead of asking where real religion is, how about asking where real atheism is ? Atheism as it exists is the handmaiden of religion because it is sterile, it tells us nothing, and as such it is just what religion needs. Whereas, what we need is an atheism that tells us something, nay, tells us everything. An atheism that tell us what humans are, what religion is, and what reality is, which you appear to have not one wit of a notion is even an issue. Presumably because you believe the hype of the official dogma that tells us dupes that we live in a free world now. Never was any religious devotee more deluded than those of us who fall under this spell, and I have been one such myself.

    If we looked after our own business, as in what atheism should tell us, the rest would take care of itself, maybe.

  5. Greyhound1405

    When Muslims are in a minority, they bleat about their rights. And insist that they are a Religion of peace.

    As soon as they become a force they insist on Sharia Law, alongside the law of the country they are residing in. A totalitarian system that treats women abysmally. For example women are married off when children, even shipped abroad to marry an uncle for a fee! (a good way to get the muslim population up in the country they have infiltrated) also women get mutilated in the genitals (cutting off the clitoris, sometimes the labia too, then sewn up). Any that refuse are beaten or Acid burned! When that doesn’t work they are killed.

    When Islam has total power, as in a theocracy like Saudi Arabia or Iran, all others have no rights and are demonised, tortured, imprisoned and killed! Other religions have their churches torn down, burned or changed into mosques. After all Muslims even fight each other (Sunni vs Shiites).

    They then become the religion of PIECES body pieces!!!

    Theocracy must be avoided in all civilised countries, before our hard won freedoms are trampled on. We do not want to go back to 14th century “morals”
    They even admit that their aim is a worldwide Caliphate!

  6. And as it turns out, those more extremists views, are the ones that tend to take the Q’ran literally, thus the name fundamentalists, same in Christianity; so are they are being more true to the word of Allah and the prophet?! And are fundamentalist Christians the ones that hold the truth of the religion? Well, technically yes, and thus it helps to reveal how WRONG these religions are in every sense of the word!

  7. we are constantly being told , that most people who follow religion are moderates and not extremists . But anyone who believes in mystical beings and ignores science , logic and common sense is no moderate.

  8. wheels5894

    Some hope – people campaign against religion… in Saudi? religion is the mainstay of government there – the way the people are controlled, just like in Mo’s time.